[NLPL Infrastructure] [CSC #479616] Access to Puhti

Wed May 26 10:47:19 UTC 2021

Dear Marco and all, 

Marco, you can get an account, but it is unclear from what allocation, and with the basic 10000 BUs you won't get far. During the NLPL-project (-2019) CSC has pledged an allocation of a few million BUs, if there is a similar allocation now that could be used. 
Stephan and Jörg, would you know more? I would like to help, but I am not part of the EOSC-N project steering and I am not sure who co-ordinates this at CSC, is it Sara Garavelli? CSC is still provinding the space for NLPL, but no BUs are reserved, we assumed those come from EOSC-N. 

Martin 

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CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus 
CSC - IT Center for Science 
PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland 
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> From: "Marco Kuhlmann" <marco.kuhlmann at liu.se>
> To: "Martin Matthiesen" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> Cc: "Stephan Oepen" <oe at ifi.uio.no>, "customer-accounts"
> <customer-accounts at csc.fi>, "infrastructure" <infrastructure at nlpl.eu>
> Sent: Monday, 24 May, 2021 12:02:07
> Subject: Re: [NLPL Infrastructure] [CSC #479616] Access to Puhti

> Thank you all for this valuable information!

> It is not immediately clear to me whom of the Swedish partners I should turn to
> in order to apply for an EOSC-N project, but I will try to find out and get
> back to you (Martin) once we have been granted a project.

> Best,
> Marco

>> On 24 May 2021, at 09:36, Martin Matthiesen < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi
>> | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] > wrote:

>> Hello,

>> I should add that I am not involved with EOSC-Nordic directly, so I can't say
>> much about eligibility, but otherwise I think Stephan's approach makes sense:
>> Get a project via EOSC-N and add NLPL rights to it.

>> Regards,
>> Martin

>> --
>> Martin Matthiesen
>> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
>> CSC - IT Center for Science
>> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
>> +358 9 457 2376, [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ]
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>> ----- Original Message -----

>>> From: "Stephan Oepen" < [ mailto:oe at ifi.uio.no | oe at ifi.uio.no ] >
>>> To: "customer-accounts" < [ mailto:customer-accounts at csc.fi |
>>> customer-accounts at csc.fi ] >
>>> Cc: "Marco Kuhlmann" < [ mailto:marco.kuhlmann at liu.se | marco.kuhlmann at liu.se ]
>>> >, "infrastructure" < [ mailto:infrastructure at nlpl.eu | infrastructure at nlpl.eu
>>> ] >
>>> Sent: Saturday, 22 May, 2021 11:26:06
>>> Subject: Re: [NLPL Infrastructure] [CSC #479616] Access to Puhti

>>> dear johanna,

>>>> Can we add Ali to your project? [...]

>>>>> I am Ali Basirat, a postdoctoral researcher at Linköping University
>>>>> and a member of the project NLPL with the registration number NN9447K.
>>>>> I wonder how I can get a CSC account to access the Puhti
>>>>> supercomputer. I could not find any link to my project in neither Haka
>>>>> nor Virtu, hence I asked you.

>>> i am sorry i have taken so long to respond; the question is not quite
>>> trivial :-).

>>> i am adding to this thread the NLPL infrastructure coordinators, which
>>> include our mentor at CSC, martin mathiessen, as well as professor
>>> marco kuhlmann, the NLPL site coordinator at linköping.

>>> when we originally created the NLPL network, we decided that in the
>>> CSC system each participating site should receive sub-allocations
>>> administered through per-site projects (in norway, all NLPL users are
>>> organized through one shared allocation). besides the universities of
>>> helsinki and turku, i believe that currently holds for NLPL partners
>>> in oslo, uppsala, and copenhagen. the university of linköping does
>>> not currently have its own CSC project (i take it) because they were
>>> not part of the original NLPL consortium.

>>> in recent years, we have continued the NLPL partnership under the
>>> EOSC-Nordic umbrella, where helsinki and oslo are formal consortium
>>> members for the NLPL use case in EOSC-Nordic, and we have previously
>>> agreed with both CSC and Sigma2 that our work in EOSC-Nordic is
>>> targeted at the larger NLPL user community, whose experience and
>>> feedback contribute to the NLPL use case.

>>> linköping has joined the NLPL partnership a couple of years ago and
>>> has since enjoyed allocations in the norwegian national system. in my
>>> view, the best way forward will be for marco to request a separate CSC
>>> project and a site-specific sub-allocation for linköping. as i
>>> understand the CSC-internal process, martin has been shepherding
>>> allocation decisions for NLPL partners.

>>> so, to also answer the original question: i advise against adding ali
>>> to the NLPL project for the university of oslo. instead, i suggest
>>> that marco, with support from martin, create their own CSC project. i
>>> am guessing that these are the relevant instructions, where i assume
>>> that linköping qualifies for no-cost access under the NLPL association
>>> in the EOSC-Nordic use case:

>>> [
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearch.csc.fi%2Faccounts-and-projects&data=04%7C01%7Cmarco.kuhlmann%40liu.se%7C3a3f8b10da99453ed9b608d91e86b3c9%7C913f18ec7f264c5fa816784fe9a58edd%7C0%7C0%7C637574386564905284%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=XEYn0Kzqoqe1IDNW8bnWt%2F1b8%2BMA3FZqtzjtpYaYuaM%3D&reserved=0
>>> |
>>> https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fresearch.csc.fi%2Faccounts-and-projects&data=04%7C01%7Cmarco.kuhlmann%40liu.se%7C3a3f8b10da99453ed9b608d91e86b3c9%7C913f18ec7f264c5fa816784fe9a58edd%7C0%7C0%7C637574386564905284%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=XEYn0Kzqoqe1IDNW8bnWt%2F1b8%2BMA3FZqtzjtpYaYuaM%3D&reserved=0
>>> ]

>>> best wishes, oe
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