[NLPL Task Force (A)] [NLPL Board] Statistics NLPL

Tue Apr 17 06:49:38 UTC 2018

Dear Stephan, 

My bad, I forgot about the mandate! As to how BUs are used: [ https://research.csc.fi/saldo | https://research.csc.fi/saldo ] 
200k sounds also good to me for a start, especially as there are resources available. 

Martin 

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CSC - IT Center for Science 
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> From: "Stephan Oepen" <oe at ifi.uio.no>
> To: "Martin Matthiesen" <martin.matthiesen at csc.fi>
> Cc: "infrastructure" <infrastructure at nlpl.eu>
> Sent: Tuesday, 17 April, 2018 09:12:39
> Subject: Re: [NLPL Board] Statistics NLPL

> hi martin,

> in trying to gauge actual cpu and gpu usage by NLPL partners, i found your
> summary below.

> can you clarify for which period those ‘used’ values are? it almost looks as if
> the values are over the project duration up to the day of reporting? for
> example, uppsala was granted what looks like a generous quota of 645k in
> january 2017, of which 14 months later 29k have been used?

> overall, these usage figures look suspiciously small to me, even when including
> the projects that are not formally under the NLPL umbrella: the largest usage
> so far is CrossNLP, at 196k since may 2016 (at an average of 9k per month)?

> also, what are the units? is there a CSC web page explaining the fine points of
> accounting?

> we are promised three million hours per year by CSC, and a total of three
> million for 2017–19 by Sigma2. if the above reading is correct, we should do
> everything we can to increase actual NLPL usage.

> —regarding allocation decisions, no need to involve the steering group (unless
> there are general questions of strategy): the infrastructure task force has
> been given the mandate to control our allocations.

> i would suggest allocating DIKU (anders), say, 200k initially. that is a tiny
> fraction of what we have available, and i would find it difficult to deny
> denmark something that sweden has already been given, or?

> best wishes, oe

> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 at 12:26 Martin Matthiesen < [
> mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] > wrote:

>> Hello,

>> Here the current stats of 26.2.18 with Jörg's and Filips projects. For technical
>> reasons the two lists (Projects/Quota Details) overlap a bit in information.
>> Let me know if only one is enough.

>> Regards,
>> Martin

>> Projects:

>> Joakim Nivre: 2000509(project_2000509, 04.01.2017-31.12.2019): Deep learning for
>> Natural Language Processing (NeIC-NLPL)
>> Quota:644901 members:10 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)
>> Stephan Oepen: 2000582(project_2000582, 22.03.2017-22.03.2019): NeIC-NLPL
>> Quota:10000 members:11 discipline:Tietojenkäsittely ja
>> informaatiotieteet(Computer and information sciences)
>> Jörg Tiedemann: 2000661(project_2000661, 09.06.2017-09.06.2018): NLPL-OPUS
>> Quota:280901 members:2 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)
>> Bjorn Lindi: 2000760(project_2000760, 09.10.2017-09.10.2019): Nordic Language
>> Processing Lab (NLPL)
>> Quota:10000 members:1 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)
>> Jörg Tiedemann: 2000288(project_2000288, 29.03.2016-29.03.2017): BAULT
>> Quota:9008 members:8 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)
>> Jörg Tiedemann: 2000309(project_2000309, 28.04.2016-28.04.2019): CrossNLP
>> Quota:470087 members:14 discipline:Muu tekniikka(Other engineering and
>> technologies)
>> Filip Ginter: tuy4622(textdat, 07.04.2005-15.03.2019): Textual Data Mining for
>> Bioinformation Management
>> Quota:291203 members:10 discipline:Biotieteet(Biological sciences)
>> Filip Ginter: 2000391(project_2000391, 23.08.2016-10.01.2019): TurkuNLP EDU
>> Quota:101324 members:2 discipline:Tietojenkäsittely ja
>> informaatiotieteet(Computer and information sciences)

>> Quota details:

>> Project 2000509 Deep learning for Natural Language Processing (NeIC-NLPL) Joakim
>> Nivre
>> start 04.01.2017 end: 31.12.2019 budget: 30.08.2017
>> CSC budget: 644901 used: 28978 remain: 615923
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project 2000582 NeIC-NLPL Stephan Oepen
>> start 22.03.2017 end: 22.03.2019 budget: 22.03.2017
>> CSC budget: 10000 used: 0 remain: 10000
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project 2000661 NLPL-OPUS Jörg Tiedemann
>> start 09.06.2017 end: 09.06.2018 budget: 14.12.2017
>> CSC budget: 280901 used: 35946 remain: 244955
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project 2000760 Nordic Language Processing Lab (NLPL) Bjorn Lindi
>> start 09.10.2017 end: 09.10.2019 budget: 09.10.2017
>> CSC budget: 10000 used: 0 remain: 10000
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project 2000288 BAULT Jörg Tiedemann
>> start 29.03.2016 end: 29.03.2017 budget: 29.03.2016
>> CSC budget: 9008 used: 7089 remain: 1919
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project 2000309 CrossNLP Jörg Tiedemann
>> start 28.04.2016 end: 28.04.2019 budget: 21.02.2018
>> CSC budget: 470087 used: 196167 remain: 273920
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project 2000391 TurkuNLP EDU Filip Ginter
>> start 23.08.2016 end: 10.01.2019 budget: 10.01.2018
>> CSC budget: 101324 used: 26961 remain: 74363
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Project tuy4622 Textual Data Mining for Bioinformation Management Filip Ginter
>> start 07.04.2005 end: 15.03.2019 budget: 19.02.2018
>> CSC budget: 291203 used: 99657 remain: 191546
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------

>> --
>> Martin Matthiesen
>> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
>> CSC - IT Center for Science
>> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
>> +358 9 457 2376, [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ]
>> Public key : [ https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704 |
>> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704 ]
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>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jörg Tiedemann" < [ mailto:jorg.tiedemann at helsinki.fi |
>> > jorg.tiedemann at helsinki.fi ] >
>> > To: "Stephan Oepen" < [ mailto:oe at ifi.uio.no | oe at ifi.uio.no ] >
>>> Cc: "Martin Matthiesen" < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi |
>>> martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] >, "board" < [ mailto:board at nlpl.eu | board at nlpl.eu
>> > ] >
>> > Sent: Friday, 23 February, 2018 21:58:25
>> > Subject: Re: [NLPL Board] Statistics NLPL

>> > Just a note: I already had to extend the NLPL-OPUS project once last year
>> > because I was running out of the initial hours.

>> > Jörg

>>>> On 23 Feb 2018, at 20.48, Stephan Oepen < [ mailto:oe at ifi.uio.no | oe at ifi.uio.no
>> >> ] > wrote:

>> >> many thanks, martin!

>> >> to complement the NLPL-specific numbers, i think it would also be
>> >> valid to consider the usage of joerg and filip on their non-NLPL
>> >> projects (and likewise for our group in oslo on Abel). unless joerg
>> >> or filip object, could you pull out those additional numbers too?

>> >> seeing as we are far from using up our NLPL allocations, arguably we
>> >> should all charge all our computing to NLPL accounts?

>> >> best, oe

>> >> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Martin Matthiesen
>> >> < [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ] > wrote:
>> >>> Hello,

>> >>> It seems these statistics were never sent and kept in my drafts folder. This
>> >>> reflects the situation in January of the NLPL Project at CSC.

>> >>> Have a nice weekend!
>> >>> Martin

>> >>> "Projects:"

>> >>> Joakim Nivre: 2000509(project_2000509, 04.01.2017-31.12.2019): Deep learning for
>> >>> Natural Language Processing (NeIC-NLPL)
>> >>> Quota:644901 members:10 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)
>> >>> Stephan Oepen: 2000582(project_2000582, 22.03.2017-22.03.2019): NeIC-NLPL
>> >>> Quota:10000 members:11 discipline:Tietojenkäsittely ja
>> >>> informaatiotieteet(Computer and information sciences)
>> >>> Jörg Tiedemann: 2000661(project_2000661, 09.06.2017-09.06.2018): NLPL-OPUS
>> >>> Quota:280901 members:2 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)
>> >>> Bjorn Lindi: 2000760(project_2000760, 09.10.2017-09.10.2019): Nordic Language
>> >>> Processing Lab (NLPL)
>> >>> Quota:10000 members:1 discipline:Kielitieteet(Languages)

>> >>> These are stats from 1.1.2018:

>> >>> Project 2000509 Deep learning for Natural Language Processing (NeIC-NLPL)
>> >>> Joakim Nivre
>> >>> start 04.01.2017 end: 31.12.2019 budget: 30.08.2017
>> >>> CSC budget: 644901 used: 14379 remain: 630522
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Project 2000582 NeIC-NLPL Stephan Oepen
>> >>> start 22.03.2017 end: 22.03.2019 budget: 22.03.2017
>> >>> CSC budget: 10000 used: 0 remain: 10000
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Project 2000661 NLPL-OPUS Jörg Tiedemann
>> >>> start 09.06.2017 end: 09.06.2018 budget: 14.12.2017
>> >>> CSC budget: 280901 used: 18624 remain: 262277
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> >>> Project 2000760 Nordic Language Processing Lab (NLPL) Bjorn Lindi
>> >>> start 09.10.2017 end: 09.10.2019 budget: 09.10.2017
>> >>> CSC budget: 10000 used: 0 remain: 10000
>> >>> -----------------------------------------------------------------

>> >>> --
>> >>> Martin Matthiesen
>> >>> CSC - Tieteen tietotekniikan keskus
>> >>> CSC - IT Center for Science
>> >>> PL 405, 02101 Espoo, Finland
>> >>> +358 9 457 2376, [ mailto:martin.matthiesen at csc.fi | martin.matthiesen at csc.fi ]
>>>>> Public key : [ https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704 |
>> >>> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x74B12876FD890704 ]
>> >>> Fingerprint: AA25 6F56 5C9A 8B42 009F BA70 74B1 2876 FD89 0704

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